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	<description>my life and some more important things...</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll - Movements are Messy by mally black</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/10/mark-driscoll-movements-are-messy/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>mally black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI there!
I listened to Mark's message with great interest. I am also part of the NCMI fellowship of churches and have recently completed a book entitled: 'In pursuit of Apostolic Christianity'. It is currently with four publishing houses and hopefully someone will decide to publish it. I have done extensive research on the rise and fall of movements and what we can do to not go the same way. If you are interested in looking at the material it is available on PDF.

blessings

Mally Black
Gauteng
South Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI there!<br />
I listened to Mark&#8217;s message with great interest. I am also part of the NCMI fellowship of churches and have recently completed a book entitled: &#8216;In pursuit of Apostolic Christianity&#8217;. It is currently with four publishing houses and hopefully someone will decide to publish it. I have done extensive research on the rise and fall of movements and what we can do to not go the same way. If you are interested in looking at the material it is available on PDF.</p>
<p>blessings</p>
<p>Mally Black<br />
Gauteng<br />
South Africa</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dwell London - Steve Timmis (1) by Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/13/dwell-london-steve-timmis-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where from?
You've confused me.

Will be checking up how things go with your venture in Plymouth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where from?<br />
You&#8217;ve confused me.</p>
<p>Will be checking up how things go with your venture in Plymouth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dwell London - Steve Timmis (1) by Jason Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/13/dwell-london-steve-timmis-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you notice that Steve omitted the gambling your fortune away with one toss of the dice?

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you notice that Steve omitted the gambling your fortune away with one toss of the dice?</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll - Movements are Messy by James Preston</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/10/mark-driscoll-movements-are-messy/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>James Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hughbo.

Great blog.  I came across it when I Googled "Movements Are Messy" after hearing about Mark's sermon.  I honestly haven't listened to Mark's sermon yet, but our eldership team and a number of leaders from our "circle" have about the great message, and have got hold of it to listen to.  I have it on my PC and will indeed give it a listen a little later.

But it is very interesting, as we relate to NCMI, a similar "movement" to New Frontiers.  And we too are experiencing challenges of our own as we grow.  It was started by a group of friends who pioneered a way forward of apostolic church planting.  It has now become messy.  Which is why this sermon is so signifcant to our time.

Thanks for your summary of the sermon.  It is very helpful and insightful, and I think we can all look forward to partnering together to see the Kingdom of God extended in this dark world of ours.  :-)

Be blessed everyone!

Jame
Durban - South Africa (FIFA World Cup host city)  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hughbo.</p>
<p>Great blog.  I came across it when I Googled &#8220;Movements Are Messy&#8221; after hearing about Mark&#8217;s sermon.  I honestly haven&#8217;t listened to Mark&#8217;s sermon yet, but our eldership team and a number of leaders from our &#8220;circle&#8221; have about the great message, and have got hold of it to listen to.  I have it on my PC and will indeed give it a listen a little later.</p>
<p>But it is very interesting, as we relate to NCMI, a similar &#8220;movement&#8221; to New Frontiers.  And we too are experiencing challenges of our own as we grow.  It was started by a group of friends who pioneered a way forward of apostolic church planting.  It has now become messy.  Which is why this sermon is so signifcant to our time.</p>
<p>Thanks for your summary of the sermon.  It is very helpful and insightful, and I think we can all look forward to partnering together to see the Kingdom of God extended in this dark world of ours.  <img src='http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Be blessed everyone!</p>
<p>Jame<br />
Durban - South Africa (FIFA World Cup host city)  <img src='http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Terry Virgo - Acts 8 (Philip) by Chris Thornett</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/11/terry-virgo-acts-8-philip/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Thornett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you enjoyed it overall, Hugh. I'm not entirely sure what the issue is with prophecy, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you enjoyed it overall, Hugh. I&#8217;m not entirely sure what the issue is with prophecy, though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packer in Eastbourne by Markus</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/06/25/packer-in-eastbourne/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any chance of getting hold of Jim Packer's talk from All Souls Langham Place? (he spoke there after the Eastbourne Event)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any chance of getting hold of Jim Packer&#8217;s talk from All Souls Langham Place? (he spoke there after the Eastbourne Event)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll - Movements are Messy by the Carve</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/10/mark-driscoll-movements-are-messy/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>the Carve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Exciting times for New Frontiers, for a vision of 1000 churches."

Yes, it is exciting times.  I'm not sure why I've picked up on you saying it like that, but it is encouraging of you to put it like that.  Thank you brother - every blessing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Exciting times for New Frontiers, for a vision of 1000 churches.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, it is exciting times.  I&#8217;m not sure why I&#8217;ve picked up on you saying it like that, but it is encouraging of you to put it like that.  Thank you brother - every blessing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mark Driscoll in the UK by Josh Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/05/21/mark-driscoll-in-the-uk/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hugh,

Just wanted to say that I've been reading your blog and was delighted to see that it was the first Google entry when I searched for Mark Driscoll at st james clerkenwell! I'll be going tonight - I'm looking forward to it lots. You and your family have been in my prayers bro - I've been getting updates from the Baileys. I am humbled and massively encouraged by the eternally focused, God-glorifying take you've given on recent events. Come Lord Jesus. I really hope to see you and the (now married?) Mighty Whitey in Riseley soon,

In Christ,

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hugh,</p>
<p>Just wanted to say that I&#8217;ve been reading your blog and was delighted to see that it was the first Google entry when I searched for Mark Driscoll at st james clerkenwell! I&#8217;ll be going tonight - I&#8217;m looking forward to it lots. You and your family have been in my prayers bro - I&#8217;ve been getting updates from the Baileys. I am humbled and massively encouraged by the eternally focused, God-glorifying take you&#8217;ve given on recent events. Come Lord Jesus. I really hope to see you and the (now married?) Mighty Whitey in Riseley soon,</p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>Comment on David Stroud - 1 Samuel 14 by Bloke</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/09/david-stroud-1-samuel-14/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think the NT necessarily implies that you should announce that a prophecy is good or bad within five minutes of it being given -- unless it's promoting something obviously unbiblical. All of us should try to weigh any prophecies that we hear, as well as being in a church where responsible leadership is doing the same.

The type of prophecy described in the blog post above is quite unusual and falls less into the 1 Corinthians 14 category, being more of an Acts 11:28 (or 21:10) style event. In either case, 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 applies. Of course, it is easy to feel cynical about some prophecy. I do, at times, which is why knowing that the Bible takes precedence, and that the same 
Bible seems to anticipate our skepticism and reminds us that "we know in part and we prophesy in part" is so helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the NT necessarily implies that you should announce that a prophecy is good or bad within five minutes of it being given &#8212; unless it&#8217;s promoting something obviously unbiblical. All of us should try to weigh any prophecies that we hear, as well as being in a church where responsible leadership is doing the same.</p>
<p>The type of prophecy described in the blog post above is quite unusual and falls less into the <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=1+Corinthians+14" title="English Standard Version Bible">1 Corinthians 14</a> category, being more of an <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+11%3A28" title="English Standard Version Bible">Acts 11:28</a> (or 21:10) style event. In either case, <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=1+Thessalonians+5%3A20-21" title="English Standard Version Bible">1 Thessalonians 5:20-21</a> applies. Of course, it is easy to feel cynical about some prophecy. I do, at times, which is why knowing that the Bible takes precedence, and that the same<br />
Bible seems to anticipate our skepticism and reminds us that &#8220;we know in part and we prophesy in part&#8221; is so helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on David Stroud - 1 Samuel 14 by Hugh</title>
		<link>http://www.hughbourne.co.uk/2008/07/09/david-stroud-1-samuel-14/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not going to get in to the Prophecy debate - my questions are genuine, and I think there are big issues about what prophecy is and how it is used.

I think it was PJ Smyth who gave a prophetic word about the Father's love for the Son - yes it was great, a scripture drenched monologue.

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Hi Hilton,
I understand your concerns over being critical and potentially unhelpful. But I was genuinely disappointed that the leader of New Frontiers UK could give such an un-grounded address. I'm here to give an outsiders opinion, and I was disappointed. All my other posts, from Stephen Van Rhyn, Mark Driscoll and PJ Smyth will be entirely positive!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to get in to the Prophecy debate - my questions are genuine, and I think there are big issues about what prophecy is and how it is used.</p>
<p>I think it was PJ Smyth who gave a prophetic word about the Father&#8217;s love for the Son - yes it was great, a scripture drenched monologue.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hi Hilton,<br />
I understand your concerns over being critical and potentially unhelpful. But I was genuinely disappointed that the leader of New Frontiers UK could give such an un-grounded address. I&#8217;m here to give an outsiders opinion, and I was disappointed. All my other posts, from Stephen Van Rhyn, Mark Driscoll and PJ Smyth will be entirely positive!!</p>
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