logo
  • About Me
  • Entries
  • Comment
me Hi, I'm Hugh. I've just spent 3 years studying at the University of Sussex, I now work as a church apprentice in Brighton and do part time web design. This blog is serves as a place to share my thoughts on life, theology and anything else that interests me at the time...
Recent Posts
  • Some links…
  • Pretty Busy
  • Driscoll interviews Chandler
  • Christian Blog and Web Awards 2008
Recent Comments
  • Hugh in Some links...
  • Hugh in Todd Bentley - What's all the fuss …
  • Jason Reid in Some links...
  • Tim Constable in Todd Bentley - What's all the fuss …
  • Home
  • About
  • Archives
  • Articles
  • Good Books
  • Good Churches
  • Good Sermons
  • Jesus?

Mark Driscoll - Movements are Messy

icon1 Posted by Hugh in Conferences on 10th Jul, 2008

Mark DriscollIn Mark Driscoll’s final main address at the Together on a Mission conference he spoke about ‘Movements’ (or networks of churches, like New Frontiers). In introduction he took us to Acts 1:1-11 to the beginning of the movement, with Jesus as the head and the Spirit at work. He spoke about Paul’s church planting strategy of establishing churches in cities and commented on the strategic significance of cities - they have more people, and culture flows from a city.

Driscoll talked a little about some historic movements and described them by 6 marks of movements:

  1. Young people, young leaders
  2. Conversions
  3. Church Planting
  4. Unaware of extending influence
  5. Supporting organisations (production of resources)
  6. New Technology

Mark then went on to discuss the rather depressing cycle of a movement:

  1. Simple Organisation
  2. Growth (becomes a movement)
  3. Institution - founders and friends are the leaders (young leaders leave), guarding previous innovation, stop listening to outsiders (need humility and discernment)
  4. Museum

Driscoll then went on to talk about ‘going off course’, 7 ways that movements can turn into institutions, he credited these points to Larry Osbourne:

  1. Theologically off course - either too tight (fundamentalist) or too loose (liberal - used Vineyard as an example)
  2. Relationships become too close to accommodate new leaders and members
  3. Organisationally not adjusted for growth
  4. Pride - “not invented here syndrome”, a willingness to listen to others with humility and discernment is needed
  5. Pursuing potential over calling - prayerfully consider what to do
  6. Lack Resourcing
  7. Honouring the founder and the future

Points 2, 3, 5 and 7 were specifically aimed at the New Frontiers movement, point 7 in particular. Driscoll basically said that soon Terry Virgo will have to hand over New Frontiers to a new leader (he is quite old after all!) and that new leaders need to respect Terry and the founding vision, but also respect the future and new opporunities that open. I understand that people in New Frontiers love and respect Terry, while Driscoll saw this as a great thing I think he also saw it as a danger for growth, changing structure and a clear vision for the future. Mark was very gracious to what is clearly a delicate and emotional subject.

In conclusion, Mark gave 6 phases of renewal (from Rick Warrren):

  1. Personal - Spirit enabled passion for Jesus
  2. Relational - love and compassion
  3. Missional - overflow of relational love into sharing faith and church planting
  4. Cultural - church culture infects the city
  5. Structural - more systems, more policies, more churches
  6. Institutional - breathe life into dead churches

Afterwards Mark received a standing ovation for his time with us, his honesty and his ability to clearly speak into the New Frontiers situation. Terry Virgo came up briefly afterwards to speak about momentous times at the Brighton Conference (this being one), and to give an emotional thanks to Mark. Exciting times for New Frontiers, for a vision of 1000 churches.

  • Digg
  • StumbleUpon
  • del.icio.us
  • Facebook
  • Google
  • Technorati
  • LinkedIn

Incoming Links (via Tecnorati):
Nothing Reported

3 Responses

  1. avatar the Carve Says:
    July 11th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    “Exciting times for New Frontiers, for a vision of 1000 churches.”

    Yes, it is exciting times. I’m not sure why I’ve picked up on you saying it like that, but it is encouraging of you to put it like that. Thank you brother - every blessing!

  2. avatar James Preston Says:
    July 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Hi Hughbo.

    Great blog. I came across it when I Googled “Movements Are Messy” after hearing about Mark’s sermon. I honestly haven’t listened to Mark’s sermon yet, but our eldership team and a number of leaders from our “circle” have about the great message, and have got hold of it to listen to. I have it on my PC and will indeed give it a listen a little later.

    But it is very interesting, as we relate to NCMI, a similar “movement” to New Frontiers. And we too are experiencing challenges of our own as we grow. It was started by a group of friends who pioneered a way forward of apostolic church planting. It has now become messy. Which is why this sermon is so signifcant to our time.

    Thanks for your summary of the sermon. It is very helpful and insightful, and I think we can all look forward to partnering together to see the Kingdom of God extended in this dark world of ours. :-)

    Be blessed everyone!

    Jame
    Durban - South Africa (FIFA World Cup host city) ;-)

  3. avatar mally black Says:
    August 6th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    HI there!
    I listened to Mark’s message with great interest. I am also part of the NCMI fellowship of churches and have recently completed a book entitled: ‘In pursuit of Apostolic Christianity’. It is currently with four publishing houses and hopefully someone will decide to publish it. I have done extensive research on the rise and fall of movements and what we can do to not go the same way. If you are interested in looking at the material it is available on PDF.

    blessings

    Mally Black
    Gauteng
    South Africa

Leave a Comment

Please note: Comment moderation is enabled and may delay your comment. There is no need to resubmit your comment.

Links

  • 10ofthose.com
  • BeThinking
  • Bible by the Beach
  • Bishop Hannington Church
  • Christ Church Brighton
  • Desiring God
  • Facebook Me
  • Good Book Company
  • Greek NT Translation
  • IVP Books
  • Mars Hill Church
  • Online Commentary Survey
  • Rushden & Diamonds
  • Sussex Christian Union
  • Theology Network
  • UCCF
  • Web4Christ
  • Word Alive

Blogroll

  • Abraham Piper
  • Adrian Warnock
  • Anglican Mainstream
  • Anna Hopkins
  • Anthony Smith
  • CJ Mahaney
  • Dan Green
  • Dave Bish
  • David Capener
  • Ed Goode
  • For Girls - A Path Less Followed
  • For Girls - Girl Talk
  • For Girls - Unfurling Flower
  • For Girls - Wendy Alsup
  • Glen Scrivener
  • Internet Monk
  • Jason Reid
  • John Richardson
  • Jon Hobbs
  • Joshua Harris
  • Justin Taylor
  • Kath Arnold
  • Krish Kandiah
  • Mark Driscoll
  • Mark Meynell
  • Matt Chandler
  • Matthew Weston
  • Maurice McCracken
  • Peter Kirk
  • Phil Sweeting
  • Phil Whittall
  • proGnosis
  • Simon Field
  • Tim Challies
  • Tim Chester
  • Together 4 the Gospel

Tag Cloud

Acts29Network Anglicans Atonement Book Review Books Brighton Conference Christian Union Church Church Planting CJ Mahaney Cricket Cross Don Carson Dwell EMA Evangelicals GAFCON Good Book Company Grace Heresy Interviews Jesus Jim Packer John Piper Mark Driscoll Mars Hill Matt Chandler Mike Reeves Ministry New Frontiers Reformission Richard Cunningham Sermons Sin Sovereignty Steve Timmis Suffering Terry Virgo The Resurgence Tim Keller TOAM08 Trinity UCCF University Word Alive

Categories

Uncategorized Interviews Grace Music Sermons Films UCCF Christian Union Book Reviews Reformission Church On the Web Audio Random Books Life Theological Ramblings Conferences

Audio

  • BH Sermons
  • Capitol Hill Sermons
  • Carson: various
  • CJ Mahaney Sermons
  • Driscoll: Reformission
  • Keller: various
  • Mark Driscoll Sermons
  • Matt Chandler Sermons
  • Reeves: Trinity
Blog Information Profile for hughbo


Some money advice

Getting on with one's own personal finances can be pretty difficult, sometimes. However, there is good news in store for your saving accounts! By investing in insurance, you can protect yourself and your finances from any unforeseen expenses. Insurances like home insurance, van insurance, or the seemingly more obscure caravan insurance can all help with covering your personal items.
© Copyright 2008, Hugh Bourne. All rights reserved. | Powered by Wordpress | Theme by Elegant WPT